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Message from the Inuit: Our world has moved

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Very timely post, thanks πŸ™‚

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12 thoughts on “Message from the Inuit: Our world has moved

  1. Michael WhiteMichael White Post author

    Actually this has been on my mind for many years. It hardly takes ‘rocket science’ to know that if the weight on a spinning object moves then it is likely to ‘wobble’ on its axis. As the Antarctic & Arctic are both melting rapidly then Earth’s weight may redistribute, perhaaps not predictably. The ocean will flow to new coastlines.

    In 1990 I met Alan Ereira who had made a documentary about the Kogi People of Colombia (Heart of the World): they gave a stark warning to the world, but we didn’t bother to heed them. The future no doubt is yet to unfold.

  2. JanosJanos

    Hi Mike, Thanks a lot for guiding our attention to this article. Indianlife.org is also worth to know, I didn’t know it before.

    At the same time I’m quite doubtful about their observation of the changed direction of the Earth’s axis. Given the high number of continuous observers with state of the art technology, countries involved in space research, private and governmental networks of satellites and radio telescopes, I can hardly believe that such change could remain undiscovered, or when discovered it could remain secret.

    At the same time there is no doubt about the presence of changed climate, their observation regarding various signs of it for sure correct. Today around ZΓΌrich – in shadow – the temperature in early afternoon was nearly 20 Celsius.

    In Hungary today highest value was over 25 C, which is quite unusual in 12th of April, and which could be a pretty nice value for June. You can see the distribution below on the real time heat map from http://www.idokep.hu

    Temperature in Hungary, 2015.04.12-18:35

    What’s even worse is if I look at the daily change of the temperature in certain places, in northern part of Hungary for example, I can see that the lowest value dawn today was slightly above freezing point and the difference between the maximum was more than 20 Celsius. such fluctuation is really high, and the minimum poses a real danger to the blossoming fruit trees.

    Temperature change in Northern Hungary, 2015.04.12

    Looking at historic weather patterns it can be observed that the patterns and directions of the periodic changes still seems to be similar to what had been historically observed, but the extreme values are much more frequent with larger amplitude of deflection.

    1. Michael WhiteMichael White Post author

      Hi Janos, I just wrote a long reply, but when I tried to post the site hung & then lost it? I’ll have to write all again in a document then paste it here.

      Could you please change the URL to indianlife not indiana ~ thanks, Mike πŸ™‚

    2. Michael WhiteMichael White Post author

      Hi Janos, here we go again πŸ™‚ Regarding your wider point about scientific monitoring and data: for sure we should have these observations, but we have a serious problem with the vested interests, especially the fossil fuel and war lobbies in USA (& cling-ons) controlling the media. They only allow out what they want you to hear (e.g. FOX & CNN only follow the government script) even though we know this is often untrue.

      Take the travesty of geoengineering for instance: the deliberate spraying of substances into the atmosphere in a bid to manipulate the weather, and to allow fossil fuel industries to continue with business-as-usual. All governments denied this was happening, claiming it was a conspiracy theory, until the day they were caught out with hard photographic evidence gathered by environmental ‘undercover agents’ ~ and validated by some airlines who had supplied the chartered aircraft. This has been going on for at least 15 years, but how often is it mentioned in the mainstream? Why is it not an election issue for voters? Ignorance is bliss.

      Climate data also depend on the time-scale you compare them across. For instance if we look at Ice-Ages then we are in an interglacial period dating from 11,000 years ago until the next big freeze ~ when all the data will slot neatly into place. Perhaps over a shorter period these are less clear. What is without doubt is that since the start of the Industrial Revolution, when steam-driven machinery was first invented in Scotland, CO2 has been pumped into the atmosphere every day, in addition to all the traditional impacts such as wood-stove cooking and slash-&-burn agriculture. Then include the internal-combustion engine and a quadrupling of the human population, and it is easy to see the scale of our modern concerns.

      Traditional Knowledge is not newsworthy, but I’ve worked with many of these tribal peoples around the world. They have no reason to lie. Their statements are based on observations, and compared with the traditional wisdom passed down orally by the families (Wisdom Keepers); it’s easy to see that things have changed. I see it every day ~ the plants, soil, lagoon & reef have all changed, as have the weather patterns. In other words changed weather is the new ‘normal’ and we’d better get to used to it.

      As you pointed out, extremes of weather are more common, fluctations from day-to-day in temperature and rainfall often severe. I don’t know if you’ve been in a desert, but those large temperature ranges between day & night are commonplace there (much of the daytime heat radiates back out into space at night).

      Anyway, a good discussion, thanks, Mike

      1. JanosJanos

        Hi Mike, I haven’t wrote and haven’t thought anything like Inuit people lie. Of course they have no reason to do so. I also know vested interest, government and business manipulation of the media, etc. What makes me doubtful regarding the changed direction of the Earth’s axis is the lack of similar information on the non-governmental part of the media, on the web. Such change could be measurable by a sextant, still used for marine navigation I guess. I know several con-theo as well. Do you think that governments can completely suppress all of the sources who potentially observed this change?

        I know the temperature fluctuation in deserts are even larger then the diagram shows. But Hungary, especially the northern part is not a desert – yet. Probably it will be. During the last several years I saw that we either had no rain for a very long period, for months, than we did have like a monsoon. Last year the rain started in middle July and till end of October we had rain on nearly every single day, often very heavy. Fruits got decayed/putrefied on the trees. So changes on their way.

        1. Michael WhiteMichael White Post author

          Thanks Janos, I knew you hadn’t thought the Inuit were lying, that was just a general point about the western world having little regard for indigenous folk. Your thoughts on the sextant are interesting: I don’t know what the answer would be. Maybe the person doing the reading thinks he’s elsewhere. GPS we know can be manipulated: that was the reason the Yankees got so upset when Europe invented its own GPS ~ America wanted our codes, so they could still try & control the world.

          I actually align the mid-winter sunrise with a particular tree so I’d notice if there was a large change … I imagine we are talking gradual shifts over a few years.

          I’m pretty sure things can be suppressed easily. In Britain an order called a D-Notice prevents media from publicising certain things (state security) & I imagine other places do it too. Extra-terrestrials are a good example: the evidence that we are regularly visited by people from other worlds is overwhelming, yet governments pretend this is not so???

          The Poles have shifted (magnetic) and science has reported those; and we also know about the Precession of the Equinoxes ~ where the axis of Earth does move ::: at the Spring Equinox the axis points to a particular zodiac constellation ~ this continues for 2200 years until it slips into the next constellation: altogether it takes 26000 years to move through all 12 astrological signs ~ known as a ‘Great Astrological Year’.

          The melting icesheets and glaciers are the things to watch. Note that California didn’t find any snow up in the mountains this month; they usually get 30% of their water from the spring snows melting ~ none this year. Mike πŸ™‚

          1. Krishnan SrinivasanKrishnan Srinivasan

            In India also, the crop seasons have changed. Production of good tropical fruits like mangoes has come down drastically. Non seasonal rains have destroyed cash crops. Summer has become longer and hotter. Telescoping of monsoons has become a routine. Shelf life of veggies also has become very short. Millets lose their flavour soon. Don’t understand what we are heading up to!!

            1. Michael WhiteMichael White Post author

              Thank you Krishnan, similar stories in the South Pacific, we have too much rain or none. A few plants do very well: coconuts (some are actually growing in seawater); pawpaw; breadfruit (we only have a few here); but mangoes are doing poorly ~ we’ve got about 6 trees on my atoll, and all infested with the mango weevil … that means all the seeds have been eaten out by the larvae, so we have nothing new to plant. A bigger problem now seems to be u/v light. As soon as the plants get bigger, and even in the flowering stage, the leaves all burn and shrivel up, the plants often die in a few days. As you say, we don’t know where we are heading in our world. Let’s hope we can figure some solutions. Mike πŸ™‚

  3. Venkatasamy Rama KrishnaVenkatasamy Rama Krishna

    Hi Mike, Janos, Krishna
    There is no doubt this is an interesting observation, and declaration, from the Inuits, and one which should now bring in all the experts around the world to comment.
    We are all too aware of the changes that is happening around the world regarding the weather. There has never been so hot a summer down here, and everybody agrees. Rain patterns have changed, and so have flowering and fruiting seasons. We still have mangoes when we should have eaten the last ones in December/January. Some of the birds around me are still trying courtship when they should have changed into their winter coats.
    And to add fun to the whole issue, or is it really fun. Last year, at the equinox time, I mentioned to a friend of mine that I feel the earth has slightly moved on its axis, because I somehow was under the impression that the sun was setting on a track that appeared to be closer to a mountain around where I live here. Being near the sea, observing sunsets is some form of a passion with most of us, and we do make observations all the time. A fiction of my mind?

  4. Michael WhiteMichael White Post author

    Thanks my friends πŸ™‚ I’ll be honest that I’ve been waiting around 30 years for the world to wake up to this.

    My initial interest in Earth’s axis stemmed from astrology and something called the Precession of the Equinoxes. What this means is that for a period of time (around 2200 years) the Spring Equinox sunrise aligns with a particular stellar constellation: this gives us those Astrological Ages, such as the Age of Pisces and latterly the Age of Aquarius. String all 12 Ages together and you have the Great Year (about 26,000 years). If you then study history you realise that these Ages did indeed reflect events on the ground. E.g. The Cretan/Minoan bull cults, and the great Mithraic bull, as well as the Egyptian Complex at Saqqara ~ where the Apis Bulls are mummified ~ all occurred within the Age of Taurus.

    The Piscean Age occupied the last 2000 years or so (note the Christians and the sign of the fish). The astrological symbol is curious: 2 fishes joined at the mouth but swimming in opposite directions ~ that gave rise to binary reality: good/bad, left/right, with us or against us etc. Yin/Yang.

    Now the transition between these Ages doesn’t just go from one to the next overnight. It takes around 200 years. Using the current shift ~ maybe in the 1880’s ~ it was 99.99% Piscean and 0.01% Aquarian. Then 100 years later both realities are in balance 50/50. Now we are even further along that road and increasingly becoming Aquarian. Astrologically, Aquarius is about individuals within the holistic picture (think all the pieces that make up a jigsaw … every piece is important). So if we look at life today we see people globally connected (social media & smart phones), the internet, different sexual paradigms (including transgender) and so on. Many of the old norms have gone. Aquarius is also about innovation & and our great technological advances are right on this track.

    I know some folk think Astrology is a vague concept, but that is a fairly recent idea (since Rene Descartes). In ages past there were always Priest/Kings or Astrologer/Scientists. The Celts, Egyptians, Indians, Chinese, Mesopotamians, Mayans and many others gleaned their Wisdom from centuries of observations.

    Yes, Ven, I too also watch the sunrises: I used to have mountains where I could watch the shift relative to geological features. Here on my atoll I have 2 trees: 1 marks the Summer Solstice, another the Winter Solstice ~ the Equinox marker falls between 2 coconut trees.

    Janos, I read that article yesterday too and was bemused to see someone say it wasn’t important, just interesting. My thought has always been that ~ like on a spinning top ~ this revolving planet remains in its present alignment as long as nothing changes. Assuming that as the ice melts the weight redistributes and centrifugal patterns alter ~ then we would expect the ocean to flow into new places (creating new land and submerging other areas). Given that most major cities are coastal, and over 50% of humans live within 100 kms of the coast, I find it hard to believe that nothing will happen?

    Thanks for the post and comments, Mike πŸ™‚

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